PM summons. something changed? what is going on?

I just tried again to go from Inner gate to Golem area. Same thing happened. I crossed the bridge and into the new caster golems.

Instantly the archers got dispelled. Few seconds later the rha summon got undominated. So i turn around and run back to the kobald with one rha following me.

Pretty pointless trying to go to new Golem area. More than happy to do a short video.

I didn't notice any changes. As a hint, the ape archer seems way more happy with being dominated than the rhas summon.

Especially when you can buff the rhas summon (3rd in pipeline) more for more viability, since you cannot invis the dominated pet or it will not properly attack anytime soon. If I remember it correctly, it has been this way for years and was already happening to dominated axe barbs in trighton which didn't attack anymore after you cast invis on them.

I've had the same difficulty with pale masters. Two things could be happening.

1 is banishment or dismissal, which also works against blackguard summons.  Maybe word of faith too I don't recall. Lots of casters endgame have these spells, and nothing besides will or spell resistamce blocks it really. So it can just happen and then bam, summon is gone. There is also another issue with blackguard summons in that I think because it's some weird combo of a feat/spell it becomes lesser planar binding and can be dispelled some reason that is beyond me. But yeah that has also been established as well, I just don't remember what the details or possible solutions were.

2 is pale master summons that are dominated being dispelled. It can happen with all of them because I think the domination affect is dispellable, and then that dommed unit goes into some weird ai mode. Last poll I definitely said something about that because it happened so many times with me I just stopped dominating undead especially in a party. Since there are so many dispels endgame.
There are a few ways to handle this, but some might involve details about the scripts and spells etc which might need to be tested, because the blackguard feat should've been made undispellable from what Chree told me but it isn't. Maybe something else happened, but there are some deeper detail ways that maybe can happen, or there are some different blanket ways to address it.
One might be to make the pale master summons henchman in the code instead of dominated. I've talked with Chree about that a while ago now. Another - which might be the most simple at this point - would be to give the pale master summons some piece of equipment with immunity to mords & dispels, so they just don't get anything removed. That would boost them a bit, but it's better than having them turn on you completely. As well, the equipment could be made immune to banishment & dismissal. Maybe the summons can be lowered if desired because they'd be immune to mords after that if it happens.

But yeah it is a thing. Rij's plan is the best in the current thing, simply because the archer is farther away than the melee so it is less likely to get dispelled. I have had rogue archers happen though so it isn't foolproof.
It is part of the pale master class though, so it does seem like it should be made to work differently.

But really it's just that the domination effect can be dispelled, and that there are so many dispels across all endgame.

3t does not really have a summon class as Druid will take too much resources to address and thus we have the pm even if it did not get any votes you should improve this anyway and bring us the variety like you said all your hard work with the Simmons and you could not then enjoy it .

I would rather make improvements to where everyone agrees that they are needed.  Just because I didn't like something or I don't agree with it, like this or say Dragon Shape being weak or Turn Undead is almost useless, etc., I don't think I need to go changing it automatically.  I may have done that before with something else, but I don't think I should be doing that, unless it truly stands out as a bug or everyone agrees.  But with it being on a poll, and it not getting many votes, I am thinking some people might be like, no that is the way it is suppose to be, you are suppose to have weak dragons, not make a Turn Undead toon and creatures should be able to dispell your dominated pets.  This 3 things don't really matter to be if they are fixed, improved or whatever, but I would prefer before changing it that the majority feels it to be best to do so and not the other way around.  I might need to do another poll, since how I kind of gave up on the whole Monk weapon thing or get back to EE.    Also at this point, I don't know if it has gotten worse, it is just bad luck or if it is all the same as it always has been.

Ok I know what you mean and for sure I can’t not wait for EE

I'm happy to play other chars and would prefer EE gets all the dev time.

When the dust settles then looking at balance and variety of chars is what DM does, and for a power levelling server game balance is probably more important than pretty graphics or cool new maps that many cant play on.