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Post by Rijnius on Jan 29, 2015 23:36:06 GMT
I made some raw thoughts about build / bow synergies, here they are. Race: Elf+2 CON from bow compensates for race penalty Stats:14 STR (for +8 Mighty from Bow) 13 DEX (Rapid Shot) Archery:Zen-Archery Point-Blank-Shot Rapid Shot (go with an xbow otherwise  ) Other feats:Blind-Fight Weapon Focus (Longbow) Improved Critical (Longbow) Epic Weapon Focus (Longbow) Epic Skill Focus (Spot) Unfortunately all the builds I came up with are caster builds just using the bow for support (mainly a druid one). The high wisdom score on it is too tempting. I had either a 32 druid / 6 fighter / 2 monk or 35 druid / 5 HS (needing elf for bow usage) in mind. Only the harper scout build has spot as a class skill and can even take ESF (spot) as bonus feat. Build would be able to soup nicely and pew pew with bow, but it is only support for pet, summon and soups. |
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 29, 2015 23:44:19 GMT
*SNIP* scroll down for current build.
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Post by gniht on Jan 29, 2015 23:44:22 GMT
ranger has the most synergy overall with being a zen based build and having spot.
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 29, 2015 23:56:37 GMT
ranger has the most synergy overall with being a zen based build and having spot. Yeah, but I don't like rangers with their favourite enemies. I want reliable damage for every kind of enemy I fight. |
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Post by perrit on Jan 30, 2015 0:12:36 GMT
this was one i drew up ages ago but not got round to actually starting yet, Bard AA SD, but instead of going dex, boosted con and went zen to try and get decent saves in fort / will & reflex. Also the extra con means it can survive a few more hits. Wont fully utilise the mighty aspect of the Bow but fits in with the other boosts
Bard(9), Arcane Archer(29), Shadowdancer(2), Elf
STR: 10
DEX: 13 (14)
CON: 12 (18)
WIS: 16 (20)
INT: 14
CHA: 11
Elf: (Hardiness vs. Enchantments, Keen Sense, Low-light Vision, Skill Affinity: Listen, Skill Affinity: Search, Skill Affinity: Spot, Sleeplessness)
01: Bard(1): Point Blank Shot
02: Bard(2)
03: Bard(3): Weapon Focus: Longbow
04: Bard(4): CON+1, (CON=13)
05: Bard(5)
06: Bard(6): Zen Archery
07: Bard(7)
08: Bard(8): CON+1, (CON=14)
09: Arcane Archer(1): Blind Fight
10: Arcane Archer(2)
11: Arcane Archer(3)
12: Arcane Archer(4): CON+1, Improved Critical: Longbow, (CON=15)
13: Arcane Archer(5)
14: Arcane Archer(6)
15: Arcane Archer(7): Dodge
16: Arcane Archer(8): CON+1, (CON=16)
17: Arcane Archer(9)
18: Arcane Archer(10): Mobility
19: Shadowdancer(1): {Hide in Plain Sight}
20: Shadowdancer(2): CON+1, {Darkvision, Evasion, Uncanny Dodge I}, (CON=17)
21: Arcane Archer(11): Great Fortitude
22: Arcane Archer(12)
23: Arcane Archer(13)
24: Arcane Archer(14): CON+1, Epic Fortitude, Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow, (CON=18)
25: Arcane Archer(15)
26: Arcane Archer(16)
27: Arcane Archer(17): Iron Will
28: Arcane Archer(18): WIS+1, Epic Prowess, (WIS=17)
29: Arcane Archer(19)
30: Arcane Archer(20): Toughness
31: Arcane Archer(21)
32: Arcane Archer(22): WIS+1, Epic Reflexes, (WIS=18)
33: Arcane Archer(23): Epic Skill Focus: Hide
34: Arcane Archer(24)
35: Arcane Archer(25)
36: Arcane Archer(26): WIS+1, Epic Skill Focus: Spot, Great Dexterity I, (DEX=14), (WIS=19)
37: Arcane Archer(27)
38: Arcane Archer(28)
39: Arcane Archer(29): Epic Will
40: Bard(9): WIS+1, (WIS=20)
Hitpoints: 502
Skillpoints: 262
Saving Throws (Fortitude/Will/Reflex): 29/30/32
Saving Throw bonuses: Spells: +9, Mind Effects: +2
BAB: 27
AB (max, naked): 28 (melee), 51 (ranged)
AC (naked/mundane armor/shield only): 14/22
Spell Casting: Bard(1)
Alignment Changes: 0
Craft Weapon 31(33), Hide 43(55), Move Silently 43(45), Open Lock 1(3), Pick Pocket 4(6), Spellcraft 43(45), Spot 42(59), Tumble 10(12), UMD 43(43)
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 31, 2015 20:33:35 GMT
"VISIONARIES" build
Scy'cla, Human (9 Monk / 25 Druid / 6 Fighter)
Pre-epic feats:
Point-Blank-Shot
Rapid Shot
Extend Spell
Zen-Archery
Weapon Focus (Unarmed)
Improved Critical (Unarmed)
Weapon Spec. (Unarmed)
Blind-Fight
Pre-epic bonus feats:
*Improved Critical (Longbow)
*Weapon Focus (Longbow)
*Weapon Spec. (Longbow)
Epic feats:
Epic Weapon Focus (Longbow)
Epic Weapon Focus (Unarmed)
Epic Weapon Spec. (Unarmed)
Spell Penetration
Greater Spell Penentration
Armor Skin
Epic Prowess
Epic bonus feats:
*Epic Spell Penetration
*Epic Weapon Spec. (Longbow)
Skills:
1 AE / 43 Conc. / 32 Craft / 43 Disc. / 1 OL+PP / 40 SC+Tumble
Stats:
14 STR
14 DEX
14 CON
16 -> 26 WIS
10 INT
8 CHA
Trying to make a non-DC soup-slower that can run way faster due to monk speed and soups than most enemies. Can switch weapons (losing slots though) and go for elemental shape (no puissant here, but fighter focus). Should do nice damage, will reach magic +57 AB unbuffed/stripped with that certain bow (+56 AB with high priests). Pre-epic split is 12 Druid / 4 Fighter / 4 Monk. Sadly, it didnt work out starting as elf due to lack of skill points, so no ESF (Spot) on this particular build.
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Post by berserksteve on Feb 5, 2015 2:54:48 GMT
Some people have not had a chance to finalise their builds so this has been extended. Rij ha been levelling away at his, thank you for your effort mate.
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Post by perrit on Feb 5, 2015 9:12:52 GMT
still to start mine, started the GS toon first, still deciding on skin for this one |
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Post by psv38 on Feb 12, 2015 22:10:12 GMT
I don't have one of those fancy builder thingies but this is my concept...if it's not too late that is. 30 ranger/9 monk/1 sd, elf Starting stats: Final stats: 14 str 14 dex 12 con 14 int
15 wis 26 wis 8 cha 20 ranger preepic for bab 20, post epic the rest, 10ranger/9monk/1sd, sd early on, 21 I would say. (monk for escape speed, improved evasion) Pre-epic feats 7base): blind fight, wep focus longbow, improved critical longbow, zen archery, dodge, mobility, skill focus spot or great fortitude (or you could choose luck of heroes at lvl 1). Pre-epic Ranger bonus feats: 5, outsider, magical beasts, undead, aberrations, monstrous humanoid. Epic feats: skill focus hide/move silently/spot/disc, great wisdom I, and 2 saves feats of your choice... Epic Ranger bonus feats: 5: bane of enemies, epic weapon focus, epic prowess, for the last 2 could choose 2 epic toughness feats if you feel hp is a little low or 2 more racial feats. Skills: enough for 6 full skills: max hide, max move silently, max spot, max disc, 1 point in open lock, 15 points into craft weapon, 1 point into pick pocket, 5 points into tumble, could max out heal (make use of your wisdom), could cross class spellcraft, and you have extra at this point. I know the saves appear shaky but nowadays with the widgets and items you should be able to protect yourself fairly well against spells, or just kill them before a caster can get in range and nuke you.  |
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Post by perrit on Feb 13, 2015 0:03:22 GMT
go 2 monk pre epic for loss of 1 ab and u gain +2 fort +3 will iirc, should be able to get decent fort and will save on it, and imp evasion will help compensate for lower reflex, was actually drawing up something similar earlier
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Post by berserksteve on Feb 21, 2015 21:53:50 GMT
Ok sorry too many heavy nights/weekends and I was lax in coming back to this. Personally bobs build is along the lines of what I had hoped people would go for , however it's also very similar to builds we have been discussing previously in game so it seems unfair and was a late entry. Perrits build is more in line with the nature of the bow - however he didn't make it and that's part of the competition. Rij is the only one who made the build once posted and grinded away. I'll let him have the bow. Unless of course perrit corrects me and he did create/level the build.
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Post by perrit on Feb 22, 2015 12:54:25 GMT
no i havent started it yet, was concentrating on levelling the GS toon. I'll likley start it soon whenever a few others start new toons that i can level it with. But not sure when that will be, i have a High Priests LB stashed away it can use |
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Post by Rijnius on Feb 23, 2015 16:48:17 GMT
Awesome! But still some more levels till 40. Scy'cla is finally starting to be able to lift her own weight since I got some AC gear, it will be even better with that bow! I guess I have to start saving money to be able to afford codex... |
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Post by berserksteve on Feb 24, 2015 0:05:58 GMT
I guess I forgot to tell you there was a 10 million gp price tag....
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Post by Rijnius on Feb 24, 2015 21:26:55 GMT
Maybe a screenshot of current state of build can give you a glimpse what it is capable of and will hopefully give me slight discount. It is level 36 right now and wearing a "crappy" High Priests Bow, can't wait to lay my hands on that new one. You will clearly *CLEARLY* see, that orc had had no chance at all!  |
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