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Post by mcbutcher on Jan 3, 2019 21:09:54 GMT
Think chree means it will only work for brand new characters, so you'll have to create a new character and level up. No, it should work for existing characters, I logged in with 3 of my Clerics and all 3 have it. Anyone else having better luck? OK I misunderstood what you meant by having to make a new toon if you took cleric at level 1. So now I gather you mean if someone wanted to change domain then they need to start again if they took cleric at level one. |
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Post by mcbutcher on Jan 3, 2019 21:20:41 GMT
BTW I don't mean for knowledge to be nerfed. Maybe improve trickery though heh
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Post by chreelister on Jan 3, 2019 21:22:11 GMT
No you will get all 3 plus whatever it had before. I'm confused by what you mean here then. If you get all 3 then that's significantly different although I still feel a few of them need work. Yeah, the balance may still be off. Take Animal for instance, I think it is one of the best Domains already, it needs nothing, IMO, but I gave 3 useless spells anyway. Knowledge, I think I gave too much, tho. What I am leaning on doing, is probably leaving Spell Mantle, changing II to Lesser Mind Blank. |
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Post by chreelister on Jan 3, 2019 21:24:25 GMT
No, it should work for existing characters, I logged in with 3 of my Clerics and all 3 have it. Anyone else having better luck? OK I misunderstood what you meant by having to make a new toon if you took cleric at level 1. So now I gather you mean if someone wanted to change domain then they need to start again if they took cleric at level one. Yeah that's it. I just didn't want a flood people who took Cleric on Level 1, wanting to change Domains. |
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Post by chreelister on Jan 3, 2019 21:27:34 GMT
BTW I don't mean for knowledge to be nerfed. Maybe improve trickery though heh I wanted to improve Trickery a little more than I did, but nothing I could come up with made sense. We could also make the Trickery domain special feat, last longer or do more to make up for it. I would still maybe take this on my Cleric/Rogues type. |
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Post by chreelister on Jan 3, 2019 21:29:47 GMT
Can anyone confirm that they can use these new Domain spells? I may be getting too excited for something that may or might not be able to work.
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Post by hope = tinnely on Jan 3, 2019 21:51:29 GMT
Not working for me with any domains on multiple clerics.
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 3, 2019 22:24:13 GMT
Can anyone confirm that they can use these new Domain spells? I may be getting too excited for something that may or might not be able to work. I tried death and strength domains on a new cleric, but no new spells yet.  |
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Post by chreelister on Jan 3, 2019 23:27:54 GMT
Okay looks like I messed up. Looks like you need the file on both sides, one on the Server and one on the Client, for either of them to work. So with you having it on the Client side (your side), they show up, but without them on the Server side, nothing happens, you can't memorize them, cast them, etc. Which is good, IMO. But them being just on the Server side (3T's side), they don't show up on the player's side to cast, memorize, etc. I am 90% sure with this file on both sides, everything works as planned, I will test more. So it looks like I will be the only one to get to enjoy these new Cleric Domains.  Just Kidding!! Well we could abandon the whole project, find another way or we could find some a way to post the needed file to download to get to use these features. I don't want to email the file out to 100s of players and I also want it so that anybody that needs the file or wants it, can get it. It wouldn't be too horrible this way, to me, because without the file you got the standard Domains and not the bonus ones and you could always download the file later and get them. So new players won't be too disadvantaged. Also this could open a way to say, have Druids or Paladins to get better spells. Also I will test more before we go posting the file somewhere. |
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Post by bdtgazo on Jan 4, 2019 15:38:36 GMT
I had fun just by changing the domain abilities.
Shadow I used to essentially mimic Wow's shadowpriest (DR effect, shadowshield + death armor visual, and more damage/DC to negative/death spells).
War and strength can give boosts to divine shield/power, and so forth.
One important thing is duration - domain effects need duration groomed for more builds.
However, if you want to change spells instead, its pretty easy... if caster has feat (domain), or effect from domain is active (as another method), then spell effect does x instead of y.
I think the only issue I ran into was buffing flamestrike for one of the domains - I tried to make turn undead into an uber flamestrike instead of its standard effect, and never got it working right.
I *was* able to turn fear into a hot+dot though, and neg blast a d6/level - which is awesome if you have a scaled skeletal summons for death domain.
edit: a widget for priests could also be used to change spell effects.
edit2: another thing I did was make clerical staves with cast effects, and when used by priests with a certain domain, the cast would be greatly boosted. So a staff with neg ray, for example, when used by a priest with death domain, would cast at castet level +3, as opposed to the built in item cast cap.
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Post by bdtgazo on Jan 4, 2019 15:53:28 GMT
When I was fooling around, I toyed with keying each domain to certain classes other than cleric, in order to buff builds that otherwise would never be used.
So on 3t, maybe war domain gives barb rage a boost to posi dmg on weapon, or a boost to ab on pdk. Maybe knowledge allowes mages to summon golems instead of elementals (or adds lore points as + dmg to dmg spells)- 'loremaster' was a powerful build on my mod. Whatever. The point is, domains is an area that is nearly unlimited with what you can do with them or use them for.
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Post by bdtgazo on Jan 4, 2019 15:57:19 GMT
Finally... don't forget you can link domain abilities to turn undead uses, just like shield or might.
Personally, I view domains as a huge opportunity to make new builds viable, even greater than an alignment changer.
Ex- monk on-use feats further boosted by heal and trickery domains, and uses linked to turn undead. Torm with War has wrath linked to turn undead for more uses.
Sky is the limit.
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 4, 2019 19:54:11 GMT
Okay looks like I messed up. Looks like you need the file on both sides, one on the Server and one on the Client, for either of them to work. So with you having it on the Client side (your side), they show up, but without them on the Server side, nothing happens, you can't memorize them, cast them, etc. Which is good, IMO. But them being just on the Server side (3T's side), they don't show up on the player's side to cast, memorize, etc. I am 90% sure with this file on both sides, everything works as planned, I will test more. Is it just the file domains.2da? If it doesn't stop people not having this file from logging in it won't break anything. |
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Post by chreelister on Jan 4, 2019 22:24:21 GMT
Okay looks like I messed up. Looks like you need the file on both sides, one on the Server and one on the Client, for either of them to work. So with you having it on the Client side (your side), they show up, but without them on the Server side, nothing happens, you can't memorize them, cast them, etc. Which is good, IMO. But them being just on the Server side (3T's side), they don't show up on the player's side to cast, memorize, etc. I am 90% sure with this file on both sides, everything works as planned, I will test more. Is it just the file domains.2da? If it doesn't stop people not having this file from logging in it won't break anything. Yeah I don't see a problem if the testing comes back good, so far, so good. You don't want to make a Cleric, don't download the file, you want to make a standard NWN Cleric, don't download the file and you will still be able to play 3T without any problems. Nothing changes for anybody, unless you want to play a Cleric with the new Domain spells, then download the file and use it. I don't see how this would hurt anything. I hear, say a site like Dropbox, exists and this would be, I think anyways, a good place to get the needed file, that everyone could download and use, if they wanted to. It is a very small file, too, for all those bandwidth challenged peeps out there. |
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Post by Rijnius on Jan 4, 2019 22:45:29 GMT
Seems to work for the spells you've put server-side (others cannot be properly memorized.)  |
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Just Kidding!!
