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Post by alexander145 on Oct 22, 2023 21:41:05 GMT
So I am considering a Dwarven Defender pure build. The DR would be crazy like 275ish. Does 3T have a limit on the amount of DR have on one Character? Thanks.
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Post by jarrod on Oct 23, 2023 1:07:54 GMT
Hi welcome back. I don't know how you get 275ish DR. Maybe that's a typo ?
I don't think there is a limit but its what combos together from feats and gear. DD has the best feats but also shifters via immunity %.
There are a few players that have DD chars who can give better advice as i dont yet have DD but have two stone golems that rely on DR.
You can get up to 20 slash/pierce/bludgeon items.
You can take feats EDR III epic damage reduction for 3 points each so 9 total that stacks with DD.
If you have a +10 soak item the best i saw was 25 soak (that works for +9 and below) but it does not stack with EDR3. But will override EDR3 so you get the better DR.
There is a rare item ring of ultimate skin hardening that does 10% immunity to damage. That stacks with EDR3 and DD or shifters.
At max level 30 DD can soak 21 points damage.
Adding it together wont get any where near 275ish.
What possible for DD: 20 + 9 + 21 = 50 DR max. Or with gear 20 + 25 + 21 = 66 (only stops +9 and below with rare +10 25 soak gear)
You can add in 10%, 25%, 50% immunity thats is really helpful for DR and it stacks. Good for large incoming damage amounts. Not so helpful to small chip damage.
So for a char to get great DR you can combo DD with shifter rizen lord or stone golem for the 50% or 25% immunity DR to certain types of incoming damage. But then it wont be a pure high level DD.
However there are some monsters with the Horror seasons i recall in January time and other seasons that the monster archers seem to bypass elemental resists by using fixed amount of cold or divine or positive damage that no elemental resist can stop. Like 9 cold damage per hit. It adds up fast when a few archers are hitting over and over.
That flat no resist elemental damage is quite annoying for high DR no ac chars as you always get hit with too much chip damage while AC builds can shrug it off. So worth bearing in mind when making a DR char.
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Post by jarrod on Oct 23, 2023 8:27:10 GMT
I forgot to mention the importance of crit immunity which DD does not get. Those high hp hits 2x 3x 4x incoming damage the DR is not going to block enough.
So to get crit immunity you need Druid elemental shape, 10 levels Pale Master (with bard/wiz/sorc to access it) or shifter shape: Undead and Construct feats.
Rizen, Vampire, Spectre, Stone/Iron/Flesh golem min 5 druid 10 shifter and high wisdom for construct.
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Elemental shape most go air ellie for ac and ab with a min 18 or for the better elie stats 20 levels druid.
Wish there was more crit immunity options for building but that's 3t.
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Post by perrit on Oct 23, 2023 20:12:11 GMT
for something a little different you could consider going Dex and dual wield, and drop down to 26 DD, throw in fighter levels and 1 or 2 monk (kamas!). This would let you get high 80s ac, low 60s ab. Even with not going EDR with the dex build you can hit 18 DR +20 from gear
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Post by centropen on Oct 30, 2023 19:56:45 GMT
I did write this elsewhere, but I think a great boost to all DD's would be widget or mod to stance to provide crit immunity based on purity (say over 25 dd levels?)
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Post by kid on Oct 31, 2023 14:43:59 GMT
I did write this elsewhere, but I think a great boost to all DD's would be widget or mod to stance to provide crit immunity based on purity (say over 25 dd levels?) Stance is pretty buggy from what I've heard. |
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Post by Iron Enchanter on Nov 2, 2023 10:26:29 GMT
The concealment is pretty useful, however it's bugged - I revived some discussion about fixing it. It's missing the +2 bonus for pure DD (+21) and also the duration is like 3 minutes, ape already made suggestions to increase it to at least 5 min.
Stance itself isn't that useful, the widgets would be.
I just made a wm7, ftr7, DD26 which needs to be geared up - it's pretty solid with 18/- DR from DD + 9/- from EDR so 27 + 20 from items 47 physical, with concealment around 1 or 2 hits out of 3 will be missed due to concealment. Then add elemental resistances and dmg dealt it will be awesome.
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