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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 10:01:54 GMT
Post by Brizzer on Apr 19, 2024 10:01:54 GMT
Something needs to be done with terri rage. Having leveled to 31 and bought every item with intim available to me and having bard buff intim with song. I can safely say that the build is pointless. Unable to fear/stun even minos and the DC drops by 2 points each time a save is rolled.
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 10:08:28 GMT
Post by Findell on Apr 19, 2024 10:08:28 GMT
Can you give more details on the DC you get with how much intimidate please ? Also what DC would be good but not as OP as it was before etc. Thank you !
PS : I know little about Barbarians
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 10:14:16 GMT
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Post by mcbutcher on Apr 19, 2024 10:14:16 GMT
Just make them how they were before. The server is wayyyy harder than it was before the 1.69 crash. Give the players a break for now at least
Once the server itself is back to how it was before you won't even see a barb online haha 😂
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 10:48:21 GMT
Post by Brizzer on Apr 19, 2024 10:48:21 GMT
So currently lvl 31 pure barb 52 intim, 9 con mod, cha mod at 0 vs minos reads dc 35, 33, 31 ,29 immediately after entering the aura. This then drops by a further 2 points each time they leave aura and re enter. After some testing noticed that bard song doesnt increase intim but an eagles buff will. so i have a further 1-2 dc max from cha buff.
After further testing. Dc on mano guards starts at 32 then drops in the same way. I assume the DC will be lower on higher tiers also.
As for a reasonable DC. Your bog standard forgie has 39 will save
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 11:09:48 GMT
Post by Brizzer on Apr 19, 2024 11:09:48 GMT
I should probably add that all of the testing is done with standard Rage for my level as i do not have mighty rage yet.
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Post by Findell on Apr 19, 2024 11:17:54 GMT
Thanks for testing Brizz. I'll try to adress that for the after next update (next update v005p is almost ready).
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 13:57:21 GMT
Post by kid on Apr 19, 2024 13:57:21 GMT
They should have never been nerfed in the first place, it was completely out of left field.
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 14:25:34 GMT
Post by tils on Apr 19, 2024 14:25:34 GMT
I had started a post on that quite awhile ago...glad it is resurfacing...truly enjoyed some rage induced hack and slash. Simply not viable at all now. I would definitely echo just put it back where they were. They were not overpowered by any stretch previously.
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 17:54:04 GMT
Post by apecraze on Apr 19, 2024 17:54:04 GMT
I thought the only thing that got changed is the APR bonus? The old formula should have gotten you to like DC50 vs Minos (not knowing the Mino Hit Dice)
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 21:58:41 GMT
Post by kid on Apr 19, 2024 21:58:41 GMT
I thought the only thing that got changed is the APR bonus? The old formula should have gotten you to like DC50 vs Minos (not knowing the Mino Hit Dice) APR, damage and DC all got nerfed, requirements for mind immune got raised.
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Barbs
Apr 19, 2024 22:08:48 GMT
Post by kid on Apr 19, 2024 22:08:48 GMT
I thought the only thing that got changed is the APR bonus? The old formula should have gotten you to like DC50 vs Minos (not knowing the Mino Hit Dice) APR, damage and DC all got nerfed, requirements for mind immune got raised. Oh and ab too I guess since that's part of the dmg calculation.
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Barbs
Apr 20, 2024 15:05:46 GMT
Post by Rijnius on Apr 20, 2024 15:05:46 GMT
I thought the only thing that got changed is the APR bonus? The old formula should have gotten you to like DC50 vs Minos (not knowing the Mino Hit Dice) APR, damage and DC all got nerfed, requirements for mind immune got raised. Not sure if I asked that before, but is there an overview somewhere (here in the forums?) how this works now? It had just been explained to me that APRs only increase with Mighty Rage now... Not sure if this was intended or a bug. And since leveling takes quite some time now, it would be good to know what it'll be like later in the year.
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Post by jim on Apr 20, 2024 20:25:50 GMT
APR, damage and DC all got nerfed, requirements for mind immune got raised. Not sure if I asked that before, but is there an overview somewhere (here in the forums?) how this works now? It had just been explained to me that APRs only increase with Mighty Rage now... Not sure if this was intended or a bug. And since leveling takes quite some time now, it would be good to know what it'll be like later in the year. It's in a post by Chree in the EE test server thread, page 10. My guess is that Chree simply forgot to apply the changes to mighty rage.
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